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Tao MADE ME DO IT! - Sanora Sunrise Chrysocolla

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« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2008, 06:19:57 am »

It's almost florescent !!

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« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2008, 08:25:37 pm »



Who has time to cab right now? That sounds more like a winter indoor sport.


Hi Ron....

With winter setting in, perhaps you will be gearing up for 'winter sports" soon ?   

Curious if you will have better luck with polishing of this Sanora.

Mine turned out a-ok, but would be nice if it had a little better gloss to it.

Maybe it is just the material. Not so much a problem with the Azurite area, but the Cuprite.

I had a customer comment about it today too, so looking forward to see how you make out with it once the season sets in for such a winter sport..  ;D



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« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2008, 09:40:34 pm »

I won't get back to cabbing until late February or early March, then I plan to start with some new designs. I can use some sunrise in those.

Looks like I will head out to Quartzsite sometime around the 13th of January, (takes four days to drive out), then stay for about a week until the Pow Wow is over, on to Pasadena for a week (waiting for Tucson to start), then on to Tucson for 9 days, then it gets a bit sketchy.  I have to wait for my wife to tell me how I finish the trip, before the drive home. She usually wants to go to Las Vegas for a few days and then drive home with me. I won't be back in NC until late February.

Looks like I will teach a one week course in composite cabs at William Holland starting on July 5th. The week before I will do a class in close-up digital photography.
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« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2008, 10:33:12 pm »



Looks like I will teach a one week course in composite cabs at William Holland starting on July 5th. The week before I will do a class in close-up digital photography.

Holland will be fortunate to have you. That is really something Ron!

Your schedule sounds most excellent. Sure wish I was in a position to be able and do the same.

Quarzsite...... Still crossing my fingers. Just seems like every time a get a few dollars ahead, I end up spending them.





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« Reply #19 on: April 01, 2009, 09:56:00 pm »

Thinking about picking up a little more of this Sanora Chrysocolla. Thumbing through some of the posts we shared about it.

Having just a little more experience with it via the first couple of pieces, plus looking back through this particular post helps me think about what to look for in my next purchase.
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« Reply #20 on: June 15, 2009, 01:36:56 pm »

Had to pick up another chuck of this.. Came today..

This time I opted for a mix of all three, Azurite, Tenorite, and Cuprite minerals instead of just the Cuprite like last go round..

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« Reply #21 on: June 16, 2009, 09:07:29 am »

Well very disappointed in both the material and seller this time.

The first cut off the end just fell apart because was so badly fractured. Cut another slice and it too is badly fractured.

Have sent two requests to the seller for a refund. No response. I have purchased twice before so just assumed it would be the same quality.

Have been forced to file a PayPal complaint.. Just sucks..



Think I need a new blade ?  :)


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« Reply #22 on: June 16, 2009, 10:23:54 am »

That is a shame, George. Sad when you find a seller who does not want to make his customers happy. A very quick way to lose good customers!!!


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« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2009, 11:49:30 am »

George who was the seller?
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« Reply #24 on: June 16, 2009, 02:03:08 pm »

George who was the seller?

I am going to wait to say until they either decide to respond to the PayPal inquiry for a refund or not..

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« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2009, 09:56:20 pm »

Ehh ok ... I just wouldnt want to waste my time with a merchant like that anyway since it appears the guy had to know it was junk
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« Reply #26 on: June 17, 2009, 12:34:44 am »

Ehh ok ... I just wouldnt want to waste my time with a merchant like that anyway since it appears the guy had to know it was junk

I am not so convinced that he did know it was junk. He has a excellent feedback history and I have purchased twice before.

I finally heard back from them just a few minutes ago. Offered me the refund with me sending it back. Since I had not heard back from him for a couple of days, did not know what to think.

Any hooo.... About an hour ago, decided to take a chance and slice a bit more off in hopes that further in it might be less fractured. This was going to be entirely on me as could not expect him to take it back if I sliced a bunch off. So took the chance and is in the saw as I type.

I let him know the same just now... Will know more here in a bit. I would much rather be able to start cabbing some of this even though it may only yield 1/2 to 3/4 of the rough. Disappointing but plenty to still make a good profit.

What ever happens, at least he finally did respond. Thats a start and feel much better.. Will know more a bit later.

Then with some luck maybe I can brag him up rather than be negative about the whole thing..

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« Reply #27 on: June 17, 2009, 09:23:54 am »

I have always felt sellers could not be held responsible for rough that ends up being horribly fractured on the inside.  If the outside of the rough shows evidence the piece is going to fall apart, that's one thing.  But if it's only evident once you've started cutting into the rough, that's on you.  In some ways, it's like holding a seller responsible if the inside of the rough isn't as nice as evidenced on the outside.  I know quite a few people who will only purchase faced rough because of this. 
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« Reply #28 on: May 19, 2010, 10:08:14 pm »

Lavender ...
I believe the gray-metallic material is likely hematite or tenorite and not galena. It does not appear to be heavy enough. Tenorite is another copper oxide material chemically similar to cuprite, but different structure. Tenorite is CuO, whereas cuprite is Cu2O.

trb ...
The rough came from good old E-Bay. They came from a dealer called ... lacasadecobre, and yes they a bit pricey but nice material. Average about $10/lb. I saw it for that much and more in Quartzsite in January.

Tao ...
The mineral chrysocolla is actually a hydrated copper silicate. And yes it does posses a true crystal shape but it is  rarely seen. What we (as lapidary people) usually see and call chrysocolla is actually the copper silicate entrapped in chalcedony. It's basically a form of crypto crystalline quartz with the blue to blue green color we all like. The small blue crystals I see maybe aruichalcite (A zinc/cu carbonate hydrate) ----  Malachite is a pure cu carbonate hydrate, as is azurite, but neither forms the small acicular blue colored crystals that I see in the vein. The blue is about correct for azurite, but it tends to form a different crystal structure.  I ca't find anyone who has done a true chemical analysis of the Sonora Sunrise thus far, but it it is said to come from a copper mine. Thus anything mentioned here might be in there.

Ron... Would you and or anyone else have any idea why this Sanora would have a weird reaction to liver of sulfur. It is dissolving when exposed to it.  The stone was in the setting when the liver of sulfer was applied.

I just sent a message to the designer to find out if all three colored areas are reacting. Azurite, Cuprite, and Tenorite..

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« Reply #29 on: May 20, 2010, 09:19:49 am »

hello ron,
good to see your still alive...  we will be in quartzsite again this yr. with tony....  This time its the FRONT ROW   ura 

ralph and mary ann
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