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Finally I will make the jump into the cold water and instead of just carving some clueless lines and hoping that is somehow looks reasonable, I will attempt some simple 3D work on a chosen design.
I have been thinking about it for ages, it seems, but always put it off for some reason.
So this weekend, I decided to finally get started choosing designs (4 of them) and then choose the two simpler ones for preforms.
Now in order to ensue that I'm not giving up too quickly
(I reallllly do not like loosing
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For better or worse, some info might be useful for other aspirants too.
The D-Fish is 45mm (tail to front fin) 38mm tall 27mm wide
The Dolpin is 42mm tall and 33mm wide at max extend
The tools used so far are in order from bottoms up. The main-tool that I found most useful (just found that in the market a few days ago) is the double-sided bit (hence magnification). Its way more expensive than the regular ones, but well worth it. One change for next time though; it needs a shorter pin, to make it more stable (its quite heavy, so it does put quite some strain on the pin).
As always, at any stage as I get along, I gladly invite anyone to comment and/or clarify as to what could be improved.
Thanks for looking, and any help you can render,......
Now, the hard part begins, getting depth.....
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I am loving this thread already. Love the designs, the fish looks like a Koi.
And the stones you chose to make them out of is perfect.
Thanks for showing the carving tools too:)
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Fantastic. I have been thinking about carving myself, but still cold feet. Where did you get all your disks, especially the one you magnified? I will be looking forward to your next post.
Good Luck!
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Alright............this is going to be a wonderful thread........I'm hoping that this turns into somewhat of a tutorial with step-by-step additions as you go along................
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Oh yes!!!
That dolphin one is going to come out nice!!! I can see it already!!!
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You are providing a great opportunity for all of us, who aspire to carve stones, to learn from someone who has created some amazing work. Can't wait to see those pieces develop. Thanks for the tutorials.
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Hey Kurt, the green ones are stone bits right? I must need more coffee because my eyes want me to think it might be craytek...
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Quote from: MrsWTownsend on May 15, 2011, 05:55:53 pm
Hey Kurt, the green ones are stone bits right? I must need more coffee because my eyes want me to think it might be craytek...
Number one and 3 (top to bottom) are grinding wheels. Some sort of Silica compounded. As you know I buy by sight as there is hardly ever someone around to speak to me, so I can not give you a proper name for them. I would estimate that number one is around 150 to two hundred grid, and number three is below one hundred (80 maybe?).
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Quote from: asianfire on May 15, 2011, 08:18:14 pm
Quote from: MrsWTownsend on May 15, 2011, 05:55:53 pm
Hey Kurt, the green ones are stone bits right? I must need more coffee because my eyes want me to think it might be craytek...
Number one and 3 (top to bottom) are grinding wheels. Some sort of Silica compounded. As you know I buy by sight as there is hardly ever someone around to speak to me, so I can not give you a proper name for them. I would estimate that number one is around 150 to two hundred grid, and number three is below one hundred (80 maybe?).
Thanks~ I know it as "the green ones" if that makes you feel any better... I have green, pink and white, they vary by coarseness and that's all I know. lol
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Quote from: Steve on May 15, 2011, 09:07:01 am
I'm hoping that this turns into somewhat of a tutorial with step-by-step additions as you go along
Steve that's the idea for better or worse. So everyone can see; what not to do :)
But it will take a while as it is the end of the school-year for me, by the end of this month. So there is a lot of paperwork, corrections and evaluations. Even the "Agate Board" for the school still awaits creation. I'm thinking of possibly getting it ready for next month as the kids will still be there for another month.
In any case, I promised myself to do an hour a day.
First order of business is lifting the Dolphin and some features of the fish from the background. I want the eyes and the mouth of the fish to stand out and not just be outlined so I got to remove material around it plus giving the fins some sort of movement is still something that I ponder about. I can imagine how it should look like in different scenarios, but it will be different for every fin.
The one thing that I can not yet imagine is as to how I should pose the dolphin; "Side view" or "top view".
The marked spot could be an eye or a blowhole. The top fin would need minimal adjustment, but the side-fin would be very different.
What do you all think is better: the Dolphin turning in front of the seaweed or swimming across?
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Good morning everyone,
Now is the stage where I would like to throw the towel (that's the reason for this thread).
Having announced the project, its hard to pull out.
First you outline the shape you want, then you cut the form only to completely take it apart again.
This is the stage where nothing seems really right or close to what one has on mind.
But normally its exactly from here where things are going to improve.
Have removed material to expose areas that have to stand out and tried to give preliminary high and low points. Just need to keep on mind Mikes words "you can not replace something that you removed".
Still would like to get some votes/oppinions for the dolphins position: Do you think it would look better seeing the dolphin from the side or from top? Once this is decided, he will take shape quickly
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The design is in your head and heart. You go with what they are telling you.
I am loving this. I love seeing these pieces start to develop into some wonderful.
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I would stay with the game-plan and do it like in the original drawing. I think that it will turn out great!!!
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Since you are having so much trouble deciding you must like them both. So how about a compromise, looking at it from 45 degrees - neither top nor front, but average. ????
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They both are already very cool looking ALREADY!!!
Kurt, what do you do to keep the rock and bits lubricated while you cut?
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