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Mary Ann
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« on: April 25, 2011, 09:22:43 am »

I've decided to switch to mineral oil for my big saw and wondered if anyone has used Walmart mineral oil? You have to buy it by the pint and it runs about $12/gallon. It is the cheapest I can find that I can transport by myself. I was told that there is a local (within an hour's drive) that sells a food grade mineral oil by Chevron, but you have to buy a 55 gallon drum. Unless I put a motor, tires, and steering wheel on it, I'm not getting it home by myself!

I've bought about 2 gallons of it (you should've seen the looks I got <<<snort>>>>).

I've also heard that you can get some at a feed store (sold as horse laxative), but haven't looked at our local place.
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« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2011, 09:38:51 am »

Hello Mary Ann,

  If you look in your local "Yellow-Pages" under Oils-Lubricating you may find a supplier that sell it in 5 gal buckets, most of them here in Salt Lake do.  That's how I buy mine.  Many of these companies call themselves "Petroleum company" and they deal in many other forms of oil as well.
  A couple of phone calls may help you save a buck or two.....
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« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2011, 09:52:04 am »

Thanks! I just tried that and found a possible source. However, they stumped me by asking what viscosity. They said it comes in a range of 20-150??? A rock club I visited uses mineral oil and it seemed quite light. My guess is I might want it in the lower viscosity range?
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« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2011, 10:09:14 am »

The supplier just called me back, he had done some investigating for me. He recommended Schaeffer food grade oil, viscosity of 32. He said it is a high-grade oil. He said he also had some non-food grade (Chevron rock oil and Superla) that is not as expensive. The Schaeffer food grade is $92.71 for 5 gallons.  omg
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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2011, 10:41:02 am »

Lighter viscosity is better. I am unsure what scale your viscosity numbers are in. there are 3 or more scales in use. The one I know is SUS, and a "light" mineral oil is between 65-75 SUS. For example, water has a viscosity of 31 SUS at room temperature, whereas vegetable oil has a viscosity of 200 SUS at room temperature I have been buying STE-70 mail order from Texas, but it is $19 plus shipping, and this time around, I got the light mineral oil from Farm Tractor Supply for $15. It seems close to SUS 70.

The other characteristic is flash point, where higher is better. STE-70 is about 388 deg-F.
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Mary Ann
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« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2011, 10:48:29 am »

Thanks Daniel,
I have no idea what the scale is, I'll have to ask when I go there. The guy was really  nice, trying to save me money with the non-food grade, but he said there was an odor. I want to go to odorless. Does what you use have an odor?

The oil he suggested for food grade is used in the valley (by wineries) for high speed machinery.
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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2011, 10:50:09 am »

Covington sells rock hound oil for $85/5 gallon bucket.  Am trying it in our 14" saw on brazilian.  Seems to be going well.  Bev
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« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2011, 11:52:05 am »

The supplier just called me back, he had done some investigating for me. He recommended Schaeffer food grade oil, viscosity of 32. He said it is a high-grade oil. He said he also had some non-food grade (Chevron rock oil and Superla) that is not as expensive. The Schaeffer food grade is $92.71 for 5 gallons.  omg

Our local Schaeffer dealer quoted me $119 per 5 gals.    Double omg omg

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« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2011, 11:57:58 am »

I use agricultural grade light mineral oil.  It is available at just about any livestock supplier as it is used for intestinal problems in horses and cattle.  It works well, is non-toxic and does not create too much vapor.  I pay between 10 and $12 per gallon depending on the store.

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« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2011, 12:17:26 pm »

Don't know if this will help or not, but here's a link I found while looking around for information on the Borax thread yesterday.  Also has some info on oil in the comments.

http://www.1rockhound.com/new-lapidary-saw-lortone-ts-10/
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« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2011, 12:50:20 pm »

Thanks everyone! I'm going to swing by our farm supply while I'm out, see what they'e got and what price, (and if it smells!, the oil, not the ranch supply, lol)

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« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2011, 01:18:21 pm »


Mary Ann, fwiw...I use hydraulic oil from the 'Carquest' auto parts store.  $35 a gal.  Does not smell...just don't know about long term effects on your skin although I wear gloves most of the time.

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« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2011, 02:19:55 pm »

The Farm Tractor Supply oil has a faint alcohol smell because of some trace impurities - not really an odor. It it more like technical grade, which is one step below food grade. The STE-70 is avalable in either technicalor food grade, and the only difference is some of the conditions of botteling. No odor.

I found this chart:
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/visc.html

According to this ISO 32 (Schaffer food grade) is about SUS 175, which is much thicker than you want. Rock particles will not drop out so fast. You would need ISO 12 to be about SUS 70. But be careful because fo SUS people have to say which temperture it is at.
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« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2011, 02:35:39 pm »

From another source:  "white mineral oil that is USP grade (US Pharmacopeia) or a food grade oil. The only difference between a USP grade white oil, and a food grade is the requirement for food grade to be packaged in a clean room. They both come out of the same tank. If you have a large bakery near you, that could be a good source for small quantities of these oils. The bakeries use them as a dough divider oil, and to oil the baking pans. Duoprime White Mineral Oil 70, is a 70 SUS odor free oil with a flash point of 330║ F available from Vanguard Distributing. Exxon markets white mineral oils as Marcol 52, and Marcol 82. The numbers indicate the SUS viscosity. They also have a 330║ F flash point. There are many more white mineral oils available then just these two. All of the white mineral oils clean off slabs easily as well as from your hands."  Thanks woody

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Oil and grease approval Classifications

The following NSF (National Sanitation Foundation) H-1 and H-2 classifications are the official nomenclature for lubricants federally approved for use in inspected food plants.
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H-1 Classification lubricants are manufactured with ingredients that comply with FDA regulation 21. CFR 178.3570 for lubricants with incidental contact with the edible product.

H-2 Classification lubricants may be used as a lubricant or anti-rust agent on equipment in which there is no possibility of the lubricated part contacting the edible product.
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« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2011, 03:03:52 pm »

I did find a couple places on the internet...
Had shipping calculate to me (same zip code) for comparison:

Mineral Oil 5 Gallon Pail  -  Price: $ 76.90  (UPS groung $33.47 to me @ Lincoln, NE)
http://www.chemistrystore.com/Mineral_Oil-Mineral_Oil_5_Gallons.html

Mineral Oil 5 Gallon Pail  -  Price: $ 64.95   (UPS groung $28.20 to me @ Lincoln, NE)
http://www.thecandlemakersstore.com/product/ADMO1LB/Mineral-Oil-1-pound-to-5-gallon-pricing.html

There was a site that had "free" shipping and 5 gal to 55 gal but more than 2x the price - so not a great deal.
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