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RoyKims
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« on: April 24, 2011, 09:16:45 pm » |
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i've read that borax will work as a rust inhibitor. has anyone used it ?? i'm trying it but would like some other feedback..
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Rocksnot
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« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2011, 06:41:57 am » |
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I just started this weekend. I had read the same thing and since I have a tile saw that uses water any rust protection would be welcomed!
I also have notices from the way the water flows and the rock cuts that it is a better lubricant than soap too. With steel bolts and cast iron vice it won't take too long to find out!
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RoyKims
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« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2011, 12:21:54 pm » |
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how much per gallon are you using. i used about 3tpso a 1/2 gallon and noticed a little rust on the blade after about 36 hours..
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Rocksnot
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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2011, 02:20:40 pm » |
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Oh darn, didnot measure by the gallon :(
I mix a 5 gal pail. takes 2 1/2 to 3 gal to get going. (10" tile saw) Probably about 1/2 cup or so in 5 gal.
Takes a while to mix in, might have been some in the bottom of the bucket still.
I was showing a touch of rust on vice but non on blade when I was using soap. Hoping the Borax will prevent that from getting any worse!
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Bentiron
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« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2011, 02:34:43 pm » |
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Is this the "20 Mule Team Borax" or something else?
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Rocksnot
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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2011, 03:05:15 pm » |
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Is this the "20 Mule Team Borax" or something else?
Yup - the same stuff. cheap but effective laundry aid (among other things) |
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Bentiron
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« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2011, 06:50:58 pm » |
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OK, Same stuff that a blacksmith uses for flux to make a forge weld.
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RoyKims
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« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2011, 06:56:14 pm » |
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mine is a labeled for insect control and listed as 99% borax. ''Borid'' , 1% inert ingredient.. borax seems to be a wonder mineral as it's used for so many things..
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RoyKims
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« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2011, 06:57:26 pm » |
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OK, Same stuff that a blacksmith uses for flux to make a forge weld.
same flux for silver also.. |
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Rocksnot
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« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2011, 09:59:10 am » |
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OK, Same stuff that a blacksmith uses for flux to make a forge weld.
same flux for silver also.. Oh ya I used it with bailing wire to torch weld sheet metal (and bullet holes on truck bodies) the stuff is cheap and works great! (don't ask about the bullet holes LOL) |
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Bentiron
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« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2011, 05:00:52 pm » |
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Yeah , the stuff for bugs if fine too for a flux, some of it has less additives that others so read the label, kills bugs better than many of the poisons on the market and if you put a band of it around the house bugs don't even cross it to get in the first place. Works great here in Southern Arizona.
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« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2011, 06:16:21 pm » |
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Well, I been cuttin rock for the past two days with my little ole 7" tile saw & I put some of my muleteam borax in the water. Yippee!  Definitely made a difference. Of course I always empty it out anyway because I always make a huge mess. I just put a small scoop in the bottom, add the water & go to town. I always keep the hose in the well of the saw on trickle so the water doesn't get low so the borax water does start to get diluted & I can tell when that happens. Rather than add more borax I take that as my signal to quit, otherwise I'll just keep cutting until it gets dark & I am pooped. Definitely did help, wasn't fussin as much about the agates this time! So, can somebody educate me on the flux stuff, please? |
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Steve
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« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2011, 06:33:56 pm » |
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I've got to try this with my little 'Rock Rascal' 6'er............. some of the stuff I've been cutting lately is hard as a rock and takes forever.....................  |
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RoyKims
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« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2011, 07:24:10 pm » |
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So, can somebody educate me on the flux stuff, please?
mix with alcohol or water to form a paste or thick liquid. use as flux. i got a couple of kits at the welding shop of 56%silver solder and the flux is the same blue the borax makes.. go figure. |
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