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RoyKims
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« on: April 24, 2011, 09:16:45 pm »

i've read that borax will work as a rust inhibitor. has anyone used it ?? i'm trying it but would like some other feedback..
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« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2011, 06:41:57 am »

I just started this weekend.  I had read the same thing and since I have a tile saw that uses water any rust protection would be welcomed!
I also have notices from the way the water flows and the rock cuts that it is a better lubricant than soap too.  With steel bolts and cast iron vice it won't take too long to find out!
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« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2011, 06:59:11 am »

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2011, 12:21:54 pm »

how much per gallon are you using. i used about 3tpso a 1/2 gallon and noticed a little rust on the blade after about 36 hours..
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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2011, 02:20:40 pm »

Oh darn,  didnot measure by the gallon :(
I mix a 5 gal pail.  takes 2 1/2 to 3 gal to get going. (10" tile saw)  Probably about 1/2 cup or so in 5 gal.
Takes a while to mix in, might have been some in the bottom of the bucket still.

I was showing a touch of rust on vice but non on blade when I was using soap.  Hoping the Borax will prevent that from getting any worse!
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« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2011, 02:34:43 pm »

Is this the "20 Mule Team Borax" or something else?
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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2011, 03:05:15 pm »

Is this the "20 Mule Team Borax" or something else?

Yup - the same stuff.  cheap but effective laundry aid (among other things)
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« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2011, 06:50:58 pm »

OK, Same stuff that a blacksmith uses for flux to make a forge weld.
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« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2011, 06:56:14 pm »

mine is a labeled for insect control and listed as 99% borax. ''Borid'' , 1% inert ingredient.. borax seems to be a wonder mineral as it's used for so many things..
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« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2011, 06:57:26 pm »

OK, Same stuff that a blacksmith uses for flux to make a forge weld.
same flux for silver also..
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« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2011, 09:59:10 am »

OK, Same stuff that a blacksmith uses for flux to make a forge weld.
same flux for silver also..

Oh ya  I used it with bailing wire to torch weld sheet metal (and bullet holes on truck bodies)  the stuff is cheap and works great!  (don't ask about the bullet holes  LOL)
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« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2011, 05:00:52 pm »

Yeah , the stuff for bugs if fine too for a flux, some of it has less additives that others so read the label, kills bugs better than many of the poisons on the market and if you put a band of it around the house bugs don't even cross it to get in the first place. Works great  here in Southern Arizona.
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« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2011, 06:16:21 pm »

Well, I been cuttin rock for the past two days with my little ole 7" tile saw & I put some of my muleteam borax in the water.  Yippee!   yippie  Definitely made a difference.  Of course I always empty it out anyway because I always make a huge mess.  I just put a small scoop in the bottom, add the water & go to town.  I always keep the hose in the well of the saw on trickle so the water doesn't get low so the borax water does start to get diluted & I can tell when that happens.  Rather than add more borax I take that as my signal to quit,  otherwise I'll just keep cutting until it gets dark & I am pooped.  Definitely did help,  wasn't fussin as much about the agates this time!  So, can somebody educate me on the flux stuff, please? 
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« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2011, 06:33:56 pm »

I've got to try this with my little 'Rock Rascal' 6'er............. some of the stuff I've been cutting lately is hard as a rock and takes forever.....................  bricks
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« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2011, 07:24:10 pm »

So, can somebody educate me on the flux stuff, please? 
mix with alcohol or water to form a paste or thick liquid. use as flux.  i got a couple of kits at the welding shop of 56%silver solder and the flux is the same blue the borax makes.. go figure.
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