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« on: December 11, 2015, 03:13:37 pm »

Hello
has anybody had experiance dealing with Inland lapidary
I placed an order and its like they don't exist
no confirmation on order
I have been trying to contact them all week phone leave message ( nothing
email everybody on thier list nothing
experiance anything like this? help
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« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2015, 04:29:39 pm »

Have experience with Inland, but not like yours. In my opinion (others feel differently) you'd be lucky if they didn't confirm your order. Their machines have a place in the lapidary world, but if you really get into it you'll outgrow their machine pretty quickly.

I still have my Inland. It's now just a trim saw, and I have an MK blade on it. Bought a used Genie and a used 6" trim saw within a year of beginning to cut, and often thought the money invested in the Inland would've been better invested in the better equipment.

Inland laps are really good. Saw blades not so much. Only used the grinder drum once or twice.

Let us know how your situation progresses.
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« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2015, 09:20:44 pm »

I ordered a dop pot from them! Four weeks later called and left a voicemail. two weeks later got an email saying they were having a supplier problem. Last week, about 6 months later, I get an email saying they are in stock.
Their all-in-wonder is basically junk. Went thru 5 motors the first year. I fixed my old dop pot.
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« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2015, 07:06:15 am »

Yeah, your post didn't say exactly what you were ordering. I assumed the All-In-Wonder. After seeing your post I saw this in the suggested items on an auction page. Robin and I each have one of these.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/311501907540?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

These units can be converted to 8" simply by ordering the spray shield on top. I did that and had the new one here within days. Thought about trying to buy this one myself, but it would be good if someone who really needs one could get it.
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« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2015, 09:51:43 pm »

Thx Vince & Dave
Ya mayb if they don't send it I'll start thinking of stepping up
I Have an inland glass grinder always served me well
Coming from stained glass back ground prob don't get as much wear n tear
I'll wait till Mon
The thing also with them
They didn't return any calls
Bad CS
So good advice thanks
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« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2015, 08:40:20 am »

So is High tech considered good go to equipment
my hole thing is space
the all in wonder seemed perfect
i'm kickin my self i didnt check more around the forum
i'm still feeling my way around
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« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2015, 10:24:35 am »

Hi Zurn.  I'm Vince's other half.  :D

As Vince said, we both have Hi-Tech flat laps.  I've owned mine since 2001 or so and have never had a problem with it.  It's still going strong.  I don't use it exclusively anymore, since we both also have Genies, but I do use it for backs of cabs and other stones that need slower speeds, etc.  I really like it and sometimes prefer it over the Genie. The Ameritool flat lap machine is also very good and on the same par as Hi Tech.  They both use the same discs.  If cost is not all that important to you, you could also look at Diamond Pacific's Bigfoot, which is more expensive, but uses wheels instead of flat laps.  It is a machine that has a very small footprint.  http://www.diamondpacific.com/bigfootgemmakerc.html

If I were you, I'd probably just cancel the order with Inland (and notify your credit card company, so they don't charge you) and purchase something else.  Inland has gotten a notoriously bad reputation lately regarding customer service and not receiving orders for long periods of time.  I think they should have just stuck with stained glass supplies, myself.
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« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2015, 01:25:13 pm »

Hi D
Big foot looks nice
what do you use for trim saw?
I think thats very good advice
 I think u got that right about CS thats a shame as I said
thats where I come from stained glass
But this is where I want to be thats great info I think Im gonna do just that
Little more than I thought I be spending But I m hooked on rocks now
Thank you very much D & Vince thats a big help
Tony
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« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2015, 05:00:11 pm »

There is a 4" trim saw attachment you can buy for the Bigfoot for an additional $130.

I'm not D, btw, I'm Robin.  That was a smiley in just text.   lol

Unfortunately, lapidary equipment is expensive, but if you buy decent equipment and take care of it, it will outlast you. Tben buying all the rocks starts adding up as you get more and more obsessed.  Kind of like stained glass -- just gotta have those new mottleds or opalescents or what have you, just because they're cool looking!
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« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2015, 05:06:39 pm »

Oh yeah, I almost forgot -- if you do decide to buy a Bigfoot, don't order it directly from Diamond Pacific.  Do some research because you can get them cheaper elsewhere.  I did a real quick search and found it at Kingsley North (an excellent vendor) here:  http://www.kingsleynorth.com/skshop/products.php?catID=1066
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« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2015, 07:05:01 pm »

Hi Robin
sorry bout that didn't c the eyes
the attachment helps solve my space issue
thats great
little set backs sometimes turn into big steps forward
thanks to you and Vince much appreciated 
I c u know your glass
its def an obsession  one to another
ive always been a closet rock hound
now I can slice my own aggate to add to stained glass pieces
always bout them before
thx again
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« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2015, 07:24:16 pm »

No worries.  I thought it was funny!
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« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2015, 07:22:29 am »

Well I finally got a human at Inland
cancelled order
Now I'm in the market for a trim saw and a lapidary grinder/ polisher   i must cab
big question do you think that is doable for around $1000
I wish I jumped on that Hi Tech one on ebay Vince told me about
of course it sold now
any guidance is greatly appreciated

I just check ebay there is a 6" Hi Tech Lapidary trim saw.
There is also another same thing but w/ a vice $100 more
is it worth $100 for vise both same seller
from what I've seen folks here use this equipment

i would like to bounce off you or anybody that can help

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« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2015, 08:07:27 am »

Vince and I were hoping it was you that had got it.  Went for starting bid price and at $195 that was really cheap.  Where are you located?  Sometimes you can find equipment for reasonable prices on Craig's List in your area.  Also check out estate sales, etc. in the newspaper.  You never know what you'll find.

Under $1,000 will definitely be difficult if you buy new.  Any grinding machine or saw by itself is going to be near that or more new.  If you haven't already done so, join a rock club in your area.  Sometimes members have equipment for sale, too.  Vince and I have saws in different sizes that we picked up from Ebay (14" drop saw) that we had to go pick up in Payson for around $300, an 10" ancient saw from our club for $50 (no motor), a 6" from a garage sale for $100, and I finally bought a 10" rebuilt Highland Park that I bought for Vince this year that was around $1,000 with shipping.  (Vince loves saws).  Of course, we didn't get them all at once.  We've been collecting them for 6 years now. 

Good luck!
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« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2015, 08:42:36 am »

ok
Id be doing same thing
I like my toys
I know when I'm really in to something
oh need that and that
and thats when the trouble starts but thats another story
I'm looking in Craig's list as we speak
I live in Boston
what about the saw on ebay 6" trim hi tech $469
add $100 for vice
what r your thoughts
u  have been really helpful you guys thx
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« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2015, 06:52:28 pm »

Hi there, Zurn.

Looked at one of the Hi Tech saws a friend had at our club's show last summer. Decided against it due to plastic construction and small table size.

Here are links to a few examples of saws with a bigger table, which you will want once you get started. The Rock Rascal is small, but if space is a factor I'd favor it over the Hi Tech.

The Raytech is what we got for our first "real" saw. The one in the first link here is about what ours looks like. Ours has the motor and blade of course. Buying used saws is good - the only thing that can really go wrong is the bearings/bushings could be worn out. Best if you can see them in person.

Here are the links:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Raytech-6-Lapidary-Rock-Diamond-Trim-Saw-L-6S-/171883842710?nma=true&si=iwmZHou1AK4cpufZE0Lvsz1LJHU%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

New Raytech - no motor/blade
http://www.kingsleynorth.com/skshop/product.php?id=101595&catID=1036

Star Diamond 6"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/201485735103?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&fromMakeTrack=true

Rock Rascal
http://www.kingsleynorth.com/skshop/product.php?id=94066&catID=1036

Happy Shopping!
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« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2015, 12:01:18 pm »

Hey Vince
Thanks for putting all those links up
it mush appreciated
I actually have a 10" tile saw I converted for slabs
I pulled trigger on a 6" Hi tech trim saw small and quiet
its funny I was looking at every one of those except the ray tech
anyway
For now I think I'm good w/ saw's  I hope any way
so of course now I'm looking at getting some grinding and polishing machines
Im really kicking my self for not jumping on the one you and Robin suggested on ebay
so the search continues but again thank you
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« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2015, 05:53:39 pm »

You'll find one. Only question now is how much to spend vs. how long to wait. Then, after you buy one you'll immediately start seeing others... .
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« Reply #18 on: December 24, 2015, 04:15:44 pm »

hey again Vince
hey have we met
I know we luv our toys / tools
I think I'm just going to spring for a new flat lap
there are some Covingtons on ebay
give myself an xmas present

Ive been looking around kinda at used machines
but figure just pull trigger
I heard you guys here say you like Covington
I thought I saw on another thread you talking about a Covington
Thanks for checking this thread by the way
question
what do you know about the 8" covington flat lap
no arbor seems pretty nice
again you and Robin have helped me more than you know
Happy Holidays
Tony
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« Reply #19 on: December 24, 2015, 08:55:34 pm »

Hello again, and thanks for the kind words.

Looked at the Covington flat lap. Seems to be single-speed only. Have serious reservations about that. Variable speed much more useful.

Higher speed / less pressure for some things, lower speed / more pressure for others. Depends on stone, abrasive or polishing compound, type of lap, etc. .

Personally, I'd take the Hi-Tech and spend the difference on addtional resin-bond diamond laps in wider range of grits.

Here's a link to one vendor who currently has the 8" on sale:
http://www.kingsleynorth.com/skshop/product.php?id=97319&catID=1068

Just my opinion, of course.
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« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2015, 02:49:51 pm »

Hello
well its on its way
I ordered the Hi Tech all you need
Been having good luck w/ trim saw
plus saved bunch of $ compared to Covington
so got some other goodies
thx again
Happy New Year
Tony
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« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2015, 04:22:40 pm »

Hope you like it as well as we both do. Did you get the 8"?
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« Reply #22 on: December 31, 2015, 01:17:38 pm »

yes i can't wait
like a little kid
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« Reply #23 on: January 10, 2016, 10:22:22 am »

Hey Vince
just thought Id say hello
been using my new equipment
luv them both
trying to figure photo bucket out
I made my 1st intarsia and working on a couple more
ill put them on the intarsia thread when i get my photos straightened out
hope all is well
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« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2016, 11:30:11 am »

Glad you're having fun! Which trim saw did you get?

You can post photos here if you click the "Addtional Options..." below the text box. Just resize them to maybe 800x600 or 640x480 before you upload them so they're not huge.

Look forward to seeing your stones.
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« Reply #25 on: January 10, 2016, 01:49:31 pm »

Can't wait to see your work!  Glad you're enjoying your new equipment!   yippie
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« Reply #26 on: January 12, 2016, 10:34:23 am »

black jade frame  and Sonora  chrysocolla
this is the intarsia i completed but do real intarsia have bottom
I started another 1st but not finished
and got some cabs I need a lot more practice on my flat spots
let me know what you think


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« Reply #27 on: January 12, 2016, 11:57:14 am »

amethyst sage
it started bleeding blue
got some flat spots to work out and practice my polishing
thanks for looking
all critique is greatly appreciated



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« Reply #28 on: January 12, 2016, 12:01:31 pm »

this was one piece but decided to cut it
i think i want to add a strip of silver and then epoxy


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« Reply #29 on: January 12, 2016, 04:06:05 pm »

I really love that intarsia.  Wonderful color sense.
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« Reply #30 on: January 12, 2016, 06:21:46 pm »

Very nice!  You're doing really well.   yippie

Carry on!
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