Lapidary / Gemstone Community Forum
September 12, 2024, 06:50:40 am
Welcome,
Guest
. Please
login
or
register
.
Did you miss your
activation email?
1 Hour
1 Day
Forever
Login with username, password and session length
Home
Help
Search
Login
Register
Jade knife - Finished at last.. final photos
Lapidary / Gemstone Community Forum
>
Forum
>
Creative Stone Works / Moderator, Michael Hoover
>
Knife Handles Artwork / Tutorials
(Moderator:
Michael S Hoover - Redrummd
) >
Jade knife - Finished at last.. final photos
Pages:
1
[
2
]
3
All
Go Down
« previous
next »
Print
Author
Topic: Jade knife - Finished at last.. final photos (Read 2439 times)
hulagrub
Hero Member
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 6748
When you cultivate man, you turn up all the clods
Re: Jade knife - WIP update 16th March - still going.....
«
Reply #15
on:
March 16, 2014, 02:39:39 pm »
Wonderful work David!
Report Spam
Logged
Dave, a certified Rockaholic
Cowboy
Hero Member
Offline
Posts: 538
Re: Jade knife - WIP update 16th March - still going.....
«
Reply #16
on:
March 16, 2014, 03:28:18 pm »
Hmmm . . . I guess the thing we can take away from your "fail" drilling holes that came out off center is that this is one of those times when you need to drill a hole from both sides and let it meet in the center.
One other potential method of fixing the problem is to ream the holes out bigger and use a larger pin, aligning the holes in the process.
If you want to try that route, I'll even contribute a decorative pin you can use. I recently started experimenting with making my own composite pins for knife handles. Here's an example. I have a leftover piece of this same pin. If you want to try enlarging the holes and getting them centered in the process, shoot me a message with your mailing address, and I'll send you this pin. It's 1/4 inch diameter, and about 2.5 inches long, so it should be plenty long enough to make two pins for your jade knife.
Report Spam
Logged
Cowboy
Hero Member
Offline
Posts: 538
Re: Jade knife - WIP update 2nd March
«
Reply #17
on:
March 16, 2014, 03:34:12 pm »
Quote from: southerly on March 16, 2014, 03:51:55 am
My next challenge is to finish the hollowing out of the cross and to cut a very small jadeite cross with the narrowest dimension only 3mm wide to fit, I have already cut a few small thin jadeite slabs in anticipation of a breakage or error or two. My current preponderance is how to get a good template of the cross onto the slab. Siena suggested using a mould which is a great idea, just not sure what to use. Any suggestions how to do it?
David
I would print a copy of the photograph after you finish carving the recess. Then use a photocopier to enlarge or reduce the photograph until the dimensions are right, then use an exacto knife to cut out the cross from the photograph. Now you have a template to mark your slab.
Report Spam
Logged
lonelygems
Hero Member
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 2200
Re: Jade knife - WIP update 16th March - still going.....
«
Reply #18
on:
March 16, 2014, 06:29:01 pm »
Woow...i just see these posting, what the great project David. All jade dagger a very chalenging work, i'm not sure i have my patience to do that, it looks almost done and you did very well. Looking forward to see the finish dagger...
Report Spam
Logged
Daniel
southerly
Hero Member
Offline
Posts: 1090
Re: Jade knife - WIP update 16th March - still going.....
«
Reply #19
on:
March 18, 2014, 05:07:13 am »
Thanks Michael I started it before the symposium so it is out of the comp. I do have other things planned. Also too many errors in it for my liking, another learning piece.
Cowboy thanks for the kind offer, I think 1/4 will be too fat this time round, lovely mosaic pin btw. I will try photocopying the cross, using sticky tape on the flour has also been suggested.
Report Spam
Logged
dickb
Hero Member
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 837
Re: Jade knife - WIP update 16th March - still going.....
«
Reply #20
on:
March 18, 2014, 08:43:50 am »
Hi:
Nice job on the dagger so far. Way to save the piece that you may consider.
Drill four oversize counter bores that are in perfect symmetry on the center axis and cover the mis-aligned pin. Then epoxy white or jade disks into the counter bores to cover the shortened pins that don't extend into the counter bores. Grind and polish the handle and no one but you will know that the pin hole were not aligned properly. and it will still be an all jade knife.
Just a suggestion and good luck.
Dickb
Report Spam
Logged
Elegance in Jewelry
69 Retired and Free
GPAA, PLP - Blackhawk G&MC, CVR&MS
Eastern Iowa, Clover SC
Cowboy
Hero Member
Offline
Posts: 538
Re: Jade knife - WIP update 16th March - still going.....
«
Reply #21
on:
March 18, 2014, 11:55:17 am »
Quote from: dickb on March 18, 2014, 08:43:50 am
Hi:
Nice job on the dagger so far. Way to save the piece that you may consider.
Drill four oversize counter bores that are in perfect symmetry on the center axis and cover the mis-aligned pin. Then epoxy white or jade disks into the counter bores to cover the shortened pins that don't extend into the counter bores. Grind and polish the handle and no one but you will know that the pin hole were not aligned properly. and it will still be an all jade knife.
Just a suggestion and good luck.
Dickb
Ooh, that's a great idea, Dick!
Report Spam
Logged
southerly
Hero Member
Offline
Posts: 1090
Re: Jade knife - WIP update 16th March - still going.....
«
Reply #22
on:
March 18, 2014, 12:57:43 pm »
Excellent idea dickb, thank you. I love the brain power and expertise in these forums.
Thanks,
David
Report Spam
Logged
dickb
Hero Member
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 837
Re: Jade knife - WIP update 16th March - still going.....
«
Reply #23
on:
March 18, 2014, 01:44:18 pm »
David:
After waking up from a long nights sleep. I realized that I didn't do a very good job typing my idea. Should read, white, black or green jade. It would be some doing trying to correct it, but way less that starting over with a new handle. Good luck and keep that beautiful work coming.
Remember a professional makes mistakes just like an amateur, but can correct the mistake to make it look like it was intended to be that way from the start.
Dickb
Report Spam
Logged
Elegance in Jewelry
69 Retired and Free
GPAA, PLP - Blackhawk G&MC, CVR&MS
Eastern Iowa, Clover SC
southerly
Hero Member
Offline
Posts: 1090
Re: Jade knife - WIP update 16th March - still going.....
«
Reply #24
on:
June 21, 2014, 08:29:49 am »
Well I have finally finished. I really struggled with the inlay and that is the weakest part, I ended up cutting the cross then enlarging the hole in the handle to take it, the cross was not 100% square and I sometimes used the wrong side to determine what material needed removing on the handle so I ended up with some over cuts. I struggled with the small scale as the width of the cross is only 2-3mm and my smallest ball bur is 1mm and smallest wheel 5mm so it was a struggle to work at that scale, I also has to use my loupe continuously while carving. I also did not take enough care with getting the air bubbles out of the glue when gluing the cross in, which I discovered when hand polishing as the diamond powder filed all the tiny air bubbles and looked awful, I had to go back to the belts and polish the handle on that (at least I learned my lesson). I enlarged the holes for the pins to hold the blade on on the back as they were out of alignment, I stuffed one of the holes up and had to make an oval plug for it, it looks OK and the fit is nice and snug so the glue does not show. There was lots and lots of micro sanding adjustments to get rid of scratches etc. The last step before assembly was to sharpen the blade, it wont cut much other then fruit but I would not like to be stabbed with it.
Once I had polished everything up it was time to put it all together, I took great care and used minimal epoxy so it came out really well and there are no glue lines visible to the eye.
The back side..
I see from my first post this project took just on 6 months. I am currently making a wooden presentation box to store it in.
David
Report Spam
Logged
itsandbits1
Hero Member
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 1293
Re: Jade knife - Finished at last.. final photos
«
Reply #25
on:
June 21, 2014, 09:00:37 am »
I admire your dedication and persistance
The finished peice is something to be proud of and has given you a lot of experience to use on the next project :).
Report Spam
Logged
The wheels of life go round and round, round and round, round and round, and then they hit a rock
dickb
Hero Member
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 837
Re: Jade knife - Finished at last.. final photos
«
Reply #26
on:
June 21, 2014, 11:31:02 am »
Well done, nice save.
Dickb
Report Spam
Logged
Elegance in Jewelry
69 Retired and Free
GPAA, PLP - Blackhawk G&MC, CVR&MS
Eastern Iowa, Clover SC
mehoose
Jr. Member
Offline
Posts: 62
Re: Jade knife - Finished at last.. final photos
«
Reply #27
on:
June 23, 2014, 06:55:37 am »
rockin it southerly! Love the wave down the middle of the blade. Admire your persistence, paid off big time.
Report Spam
Logged
kjsspot
Sr. Member
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 262
Re: Jade knife - Finished at last.. final photos
«
Reply #28
on:
June 23, 2014, 07:31:00 am »
Beautiful work! And the patterns in the jade translucency makes it awesome!
Report Spam
Logged
Kerry Jo Montoya
KJO Fine Art on Etsy
My Website
lopacki
Full Member
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 176
Re: Jade knife - Finished at last.. final photos
«
Reply #29
on:
June 23, 2014, 09:55:48 am »
David,
I have only been a member for a short while and for sure have not seen everything on this forum. This said I think this is the finest piece of lapidary work I have seen posted. Many most likely do not understand all of the complex cutting that is involved in a piece like this, it is truly a lapidary piece of art.
Thanks for posting it ............. All my best .............. Danny
Report Spam
Logged
Pages:
1
[
2
]
3
All
Go Up
Print
« previous
next »
Jump to:
Please select a destination:
-----------------------------
The Gathering
-----------------------------
=> Introductions
=> Our Place
=> Contests and Competitions
=> Shows and Events
-----------------------------
Stone Talk / Moderator, Hummingbirdstones ( Robin )
-----------------------------
=> Share Our Finished Cabochons and General Cabbing Questions / Tutorials
=> Mineral Specimens
=> Rough on the bench and slabs off the saw (general minerals board)
===> Identification Inquiries
=> Fascinating Facets
=> Historical / Ancient - Evolution Of Lapidary
=> Rock Hounding Trips, Tips, and Pics
-----------------------------
Creative Stone Works / Moderator, Michael Hoover
-----------------------------
=> Knife Handles Artwork / Tutorials
=> Carving Tips, Tricks and Pics
=> Michael Hoover's Testing To Destruction / Turquoise, Jadieite,
=> Intarsias / Commesso, and Composite Type Cabs / Tutorials
=> Beadmaking, Drilling, and Beading / Tutorials
-----------------------------
Custom Designed Jewelry
-----------------------------
=> Members Personal Jewelry Design Experiences / Tutorials / Guides
=> Show Your Custom Jewelry Designing Photos
=> Silversmithing / Metalsmithing for Jewelry Design / Tutorials
=> Metal Clay Jewelry Desiign
=> Silversmithing / Metalsmithing /Soldering Saftey
-----------------------------
Lapidary Shop / Moderator, Catmandewe ( Tony )
-----------------------------
=> Miscellaneous Shop Talk
=> Cabbing And Grooving Machines.. Projects / New and Used Reviews
===> Cabbing Machine Related Maintenance
=> Discs, Wheels, Belts, Pads, and Polishing
=> Slab Saws, Trim Saws, Blades & Lubricants For Both / General Operating
=> Share Our Shop And Or Work Area Pics
=> Shop / Work Area Safety
-----------------------------
Lapidary the Internet and You / Moderator, Michael Hoover
-----------------------------
=> Members Internet Activities and Promotions
=> Setting up for Shows
=> Shop and Swap
=> Gemstone and Lapidary News, Events and Artices
=> Books, CDs and DVDs
Loading...