inside building at the show

[stonesthatrock]

its funny how many ppl wouldn't let me take pics of their work. but heres a few that would.  can you guess what that is?????


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ralph and mary ann


"Images are no longer hosted at Ralph and Mary Ann's Photobucket"

[Taogem]

Looks like a real nice show.

What do you suppose the objection is to taking pics?

The little bottles with the painting on the outside remind me of some of my Chinese Snuff Bottles where the artist does the painting on the inside of the bottle. "Inside painted bottles".

I see a lot of nice booths set up there.

[stonesthatrock]

i asked  why not?  and they said its so you don't copy their work.  one lady had a sign on her case saying that her wire wrapping is copywrited. :o

Ya right, like she can do that.

mary ann

[Taogem]

i asked  why not?  and they said its so you don't copy their work.  one lady had a sign on her case saying that her wire wrapping is copywrited. :o

Ya right, like she can do that.

mary ann

Wow..... Not sure which is more creative, her wire wrapping or her ego!

[Bluesssman]

Sounds like an ego afraid of competition!!

[akansan]

I've encountered the no picture thing before as well.  I think it's pretty rude...

(My favorite example of this is the woman that had a booth full of Preston Reuther style wraps, and she didn't want anyone taking pictures.)

[Dr Joe]

It's also possible that they didn't want people to see they had copied someone else's designs  :o

And stonesthatrock, you can copyright a design or wire wrapping technique... but at a cost!

Dr Joe

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[stonesthatrock]

dr. joe  now thats funny,  maybe they did.   lmao
i suppose you can copyright anything if you have the money.

mary ann

[Taogem]

That was funny Doc Joe..   ;D

[Willy]

Not allowing photos at shows is common in this area.  If you buy a sticker for your camera from the Show Promoter, then you can take pictures at the booths that will allow it, but you must ask first.  People getting caught taking pictures or using camera phones get escorted out all of the time.  Security says nothing to do with copyright, they can care less about that, but they don't want people taking pictures then coming back at night or another time and robbing the vendors.  They also reminded that unless you get a signed release, never get the face of anyone in a picture, especially children, as that is against the law.  Ran into that at some of the shows in Tucson this year, have been told that has always been the case in Vagas, and I know about half of the shows we attend as vendors in this area, we have to be very careful when taking pictures of our own setup that we don't get a neighboring vendor or one behind us in the picture.  I got nailed by security at Tucson last year for taking pictures from the balcony of the floor vendors at the AGTA Show.

[Bluesssman]

Willy, who ever told you it was illegal to take a picture of someone's face was flat telling you BS. I spent many years as a commercial photographer and am very aware of the legality of photography. The only time you need a signed release is if you are going to use the photograph in an advertisement. There are lots of places that will give you an excuse why you can not take pictures and if you are on private property they can use that as an excuse. However, if the situation ever went to court they would lose. I know, I have been to court three times and won all three! Obviously no one wants to go to court, so it is just easier to not take pictures. Just know it is not any state or federal law that is stopping you... 

Ok, jumping off of the soap box...


Gary

[Willy]

Hi Gary -  well as a police officer for 12 years brfore being retired for injuried breasking up a gang fight, I arrested several when a person filed a formal complaint about someone taking their picture and all but one, won their cases.  Never dealt with a press person taking pictures though, we were always told to ignore the Press.  But right now I am following a case very closely in my own neighborhood where a home owner took pictures of kids vandelizing a nearbye school, and the kids got off because the parents brought charges against the home owner for taking videos of their kids and now the home owner is facing charges of taking pictures of children without parent concent.  Parden the French, but the darnest thing I have ever heard of if you ask me, catch someone in the act and can't use to prosecute, but shows just how far our courts have gone as far as I am concerned.  I am waiting on the first criminal to really challenge the remote cameras or the video taping of cashregisters in stores where someone is identified by the video and then convicted.  Oh yes, I'm sorry, I forgot, no one is ever caught that way so it will never be an issue    LOL

Well we got off subject a bit, but at Tucson I did have to delete every picture on my digital camera for security at the AGTA Show and recently in Hawaii, hotel security warned me about taking picturs of jewelry in the botique windows.  Guess I can see those from a security standpoint but not really at one or two days shows where the chance of someone returning to break in is slim to none.  Although at our recent Gem and Mineral Show, one of the vendors had everything stolen out of his van at the motel the night after the show closed and he was heading home the next morning.  I am guessing, but figure someone followed him from the show.

So anyway, I ask first and only take pictures of items whenever I am out in public, especially at shows.

[Bluesssman]

Willy, sorry to prolong this picture taking discussions, but I don't understand how taking someone's picture in a public place can get you arrested. What shields the press from the same actions? What about the poporazzi (can't spell it right)? Is there possibly a new law where you live involving taking children's pictures as a protection against child predators? I ask this because I teach photography and this subject often comes up in discussions.

Sorry to hear about your injury...

Thanks,


Gary

[Willy]

OK, Gary just posted, I thought an answer for you, but now can't find it as I thought of one other comment.  Will see if can find the first answer and repost as it dealt with children and some "comments" about people complaigning and copyrights.

Anyway, what I was going to add is:  I think we have become a nation of complaingers and since anyone for any reason can file a complaint against another person or group or business, or even go so far as to file an actual Law Suit, the whole situation is out of hand.  We have comments on our evening news from time to time about how backed up the courts are from frivioulus (sp) Law Suits.  It seems as if all I have to be doing is sitting next to you in a restaurant and if you don't like the conversation I am carrying on at my table, you can make a complaint and file a Law Suit (not you specifically of couse, just anyone else).  It has gotten totally out of hand and one reason I thank God every day I made it through 23 years of Federal Servie and 12 years of Texas service, and am still here, though hobble a bit, but still able to spout off now and then   LOL

Willy

[Bluesssman]

Willy, thank you for taking the time to chat! I agree 100% with you about frivolous law suites! And, one day I look forward to talking in person at a restaurant and I don't think we will have to worry about the conversation!!

Thanks again,


Gary