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Title: Taking off old handles and buying
Post by: hulagrub on December 27, 2009, 09:45:00 am
From another forum, I have learned that to get the handles off, by putting them under a heat lamp, and gently prying them off. Have not tried this myself. I have been looking in flea markets, and the prices on used knives can be higher than just going to Walmart for the same knife. Just have an aversion to tearing up something brand new.
Slabber says there is a knife maker just down the street from his shop, will probably go there, the next time we get to visit Deans shop. It's Krein Knives, and his website is still under construction.
Also, AG Russell Knives sell seconds, and I go by there daily, guess I should stop in. Most everything they sell is high end, though. They have a website.


Title: Re: Taking off old handles and buying
Post by: Seth on December 27, 2009, 10:00:23 am
    http://www.knifekits.com/vcom/index.php?cPath=1   


Title: Re: Taking off old handles and buying
Post by: El Dorado on December 27, 2009, 02:18:44 pm
Knifekits.com has some very nice kits. I have built about 6 of them so far. Heating up handles to about 200 degrees works if the scale (handle) is epoxied or just glued on. Most however have a rivet or two that the head of will have to be ground down a bit first.

If getting a knife either as a kit or new or used, something very important to consider it having a straight line on the bolster, or you having the right equipment to grind stone to a very precise curve, usually much smaller than a wheel on our cabbing machines.

This is one I did a few years ago. It actually has a 16-1 cab for the button. Yup, push the button and it switches open very fast! The safety button on top is 14K gold along with the gold in the former thumb stud location. It has a Damascus blade, scales are from burl Olive....... still have this one!

(https://gemstone.smfforfree4.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi256.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh188%2Feldoradosau%2Fknives%2FIMG_2849.jpg&hash=e5ff5bbe91d6d617bf66afeb58e583bc)


Title: Re: Taking off old handles and buying
Post by: Taogem on December 27, 2009, 03:43:56 pm
Beautiful knife Steve..

Say, what do they call that appearance/pattern on this blade ?


Title: Re: Taking off old handles and buying
Post by: hulagrub on December 27, 2009, 04:38:54 pm
Steve, I did forget about those rivets. They could be ground around, with a dremel, before trying to pry the handle loose. Also, figure it to be a good idea, to avoid a knife with screws in the handle.


Title: Re: Taking off old handles and buying
Post by: ScarlettoSara on December 27, 2009, 05:31:29 pm
Very nice knife. Ok I am gonna confess.. I want one:)


Title: Re: Taking off old handles and buying
Post by: thewrightthings on December 27, 2009, 06:02:15 pm
Steve, love that Damascus steel blade.  It makes beautiful jewelry, as well.


Title: Re: Taking off old handles and buying
Post by: Charlotte on December 27, 2009, 08:10:05 pm
Sara,  I ask Dave to find a small knife for me and I will do a rhodochrosite handle for it.  I would carry it in my car, or my purse, or just look at it!


Title: Re: Taking off old handles and buying
Post by: ScarlettoSara on December 27, 2009, 08:13:09 pm
I have a few old old knives somewhere that belonged to my granddaddy and I think one was even his shaving knife. I remember seeing one that was missing one side of the blade.  I want to find it and maybe do something with it to give to my oldest son.
Rhodo would be perfect stone for a lady's knife.


Title: Re: Taking off old handles and buying
Post by: azsavit on December 28, 2009, 02:58:22 am
Very nice knife! I love the olive burl. Most of the olive I have seen is less uniform in color.... your knife reminds me of mesquite burl (which smells delicious as you are working it).


Title: Re: Taking off old handles and buying
Post by: The Polished Pebble on December 28, 2009, 08:16:32 am
Love the knives, but ladies......must rain on your parade, sorry.

Rhodochrosite would not make for a good choice of stone on a knife handle. It is way to brittle & soft. Would break up very fast swimming around in a purse. (I can say that since I too carry one.)

You will find that, other than those knives that are never intended for use, the stone that is used is a very hard & stable stone. That doesn't scratch or break easily.

Connie


Title: Re: Taking off old handles and buying
Post by: Bluesssman on December 28, 2009, 09:10:54 am
This whole knife/rock thing has really inspired me. I have a box of old knives, many with broken handle parts and now I know what to do with them!!!


Gary


Title: Re: Taking off old handles and buying
Post by: ScarlettoSara on December 28, 2009, 09:25:39 am
Thank you Connie:) I would just carry mine around and maybe pick my teef with it occassionally but I sure dont want one that will break up easily. So maybe a 7 mohs or harder stone? What kind of stones Connie?


Title: Re: Taking off old handles and buying
Post by: Buck75 on December 28, 2009, 10:17:10 am
Sara you need some nice lace agate handles. ;)

Donnie


Title: Re: Taking off old handles and buying
Post by: ScarlettoSara on December 28, 2009, 10:31:23 am
Ohhhh Donnie, Excellent Idea:) I even got a hunk of it on the floor by my feet:)
If I ever get to leave this house again I will take it and get it slabbed.
We got more snow than we have gotten in 20 years:(


Title: Re: Taking off old handles and buying
Post by: Charlotte on December 28, 2009, 10:42:55 am
I have a slab of the regency rose, would that be hard enough??


Title: Re: Taking off old handles and buying
Post by: The Polished Pebble on December 28, 2009, 10:53:47 am
Lets see....how about a nice lavender jade. And any good solid agate would work - Lace agate would be beautiful.

 I have a piece of leopard (sp?) jasper that is mostly pink or even some of the pink ocean jasper.

There are alot of other stones that would work up nice.

And the regency rose would be hard enough & beautiful also.

Connie


Title: Re: Taking off old handles and buying
Post by: ScarlettoSara on December 28, 2009, 02:54:04 pm
OH Connie a nice lavender jade:) All the stones you suggested are wonderful:)
I will put them on my "Buy" List:) LOL


Title: Re: Taking off old handles and buying
Post by: Charlotte on December 28, 2009, 08:50:30 pm
I have a nice slab of the lavender jade, and some unknown slab that looks like ocean jasper to me. It is a pastel pink and very pale green.  I think that is the one I will use.  All I have to do now is find the right knife.  I am excited to do this.  Today I was so bored.  I had about 20 preforms dopped and waiting to be worked on.  I started them around 2pm and I finished half of them.  I think I may have a sore arm and shoulder in the morning.  I am so out of practice.


Title: Re: Taking off old handles and buying
Post by: ScarlettoSara on December 28, 2009, 10:35:41 pm
I am excited about seeing your knife Charlotte. Dang lady thats a lotta preforms to work on in one day. Of course I know you love it:) I would too:)


Title: Re: Taking off old handles and buying
Post by: akansan on February 03, 2010, 10:07:40 am
LOL - if you're just wanting a nice hot pink, you could use Rhodonite for the handles.  It's not as delicate looking as Rhodocrosite, but it's definitely harder and more stable.


Title: Re: Taking off old handles and buying
Post by: gregorgr8 on February 03, 2010, 10:38:27 am
Very nice knife. Ok I am gonna confess.. I want one:)


so make one already -  I know you can do it

Gregor


Title: Re: Taking off old handles and buying
Post by: ScarlettoSara on February 03, 2010, 03:56:43 pm
Maybe I will...:)
Charlotte are you working on your knife handles yet?


Title: Re: Taking off old handles and buying
Post by: thewrightthings on February 03, 2010, 05:27:53 pm
OK you guys.  When first this topic started, I loved the look of the knives but just kind of poo poed the idea ....for me.  Now, the more you all talk about it, the more interested I am in trying this, myself.  Darn this stuff is addictive.  Saw a real nice damascus knife that I'd like to try.....thanks to someones link.  Just may order it tonight.


Title: Re: Taking off old handles and buying
Post by: ScarlettoSara on February 03, 2010, 06:08:55 pm
LOLOLOL SmilingHeart:) Kinda slips up on ya doesnt it:)
We will all be knife carrying ladies:) Maybe I will try to bead us all a nice knife sheath. LOLOL


Title: Re: Taking off old handles and buying
Post by: El Dorado on February 04, 2010, 10:35:44 am
Im still waiting to see that pink handled knife....... I made a pink one for Mrs Eldorado, she was impressed


Title: Re: Taking off old handles and buying
Post by: ScarlettoSara on February 04, 2010, 11:21:08 am
I bet she was:) It is the loveliest piece of pink I have ever seen. I got it in my "to do" pile:)
Please show us her knife:)


Title: Re: Taking off old handles and buying
Post by: hulagrub on February 04, 2010, 12:13:59 pm
I just finished the two for Charlotte last night. Will try and take pix tonight.


Title: Re: Taking off old handles and buying
Post by: El Dorado on February 04, 2010, 02:49:53 pm
Pictures of the pink may not be available.Mrs El Dorado put in her magic purse... that thing can make anything dissapear


Title: Re: Taking off old handles and buying
Post by: Charlotte on February 04, 2010, 03:54:19 pm
Sara, my two knives are beautiful.  I found a slab of rhodonite and something Dave calls sow belly.  It is a pretty soft lavender.  I just love the rhodonite, it has the white streaks in it rather than the black.  I had wanted to make it myself but it has been crazy around the house.  It all started with this very small project to have the tile replaced it my bathrooms...... and Dave is not a patient person.  It has been like that movie years ago with Tom Hanks buying a house and starting improvements and the whole house falls apart.  Maybe it was a Chevy Chase movie.  Which ever movie it is, I would rather have watched it than lived it.


Title: Re: Taking off old handles and buying
Post by: redrockrods on February 04, 2010, 03:57:43 pm
Has anyone tried the knife blanks at http://www.premiumknifesupply.com/-strse-Premium-Blades/Categories.bok (http://www.premiumknifesupply.com/-strse-Premium-Blades/Categories.bok)? These look just about perfect for a knife project.


Title: Re: Taking off old handles and buying
Post by: ScarlettoSara on February 04, 2010, 04:12:32 pm
LOLOL Charlotte.....Home remodeling, ah yes I know exactly what you mean. I am mid-way into painting my trim and walls in my living room and dining room.
And now I want to have the floors refinished:) Then I will want some new furniture and some new drapes and.... Never ends:)
I am excited about seeing your knives Charlotte:)

LOL Steve, I carry a big purse too:)


Title: Re: Taking off old handles and buying
Post by: Taogem on February 04, 2010, 04:14:38 pm
Has anyone tried the knife blanks at http://www.premiumknifesupply.com/-strse-Premium-Blades/Categories.bok (http://www.premiumknifesupply.com/-strse-Premium-Blades/Categories.bok)? These look just about perfect for a knife project.

Thanks Don !

Great prices there ..


Title: Re: Taking off old handles and buying
Post by: El Dorado on February 04, 2010, 05:02:41 pm
I got one of their Damascus blades form an eBay auction. The Damascus blade was defiantly a second, both in the blade grind and the Damascus etching.... I sent it back for a refund. Maybe buying direct from their website might have better results. They sure do have some very nice blanks. 


Title: Re: Taking off old handles and buying
Post by: hulagrub on February 04, 2010, 06:33:31 pm
Don, yes, that is where I have been getting my blades. They are American made, and seem to be of high quality.


Title: Re: Taking off old handles and buying
Post by: redrockrods on February 05, 2010, 08:38:00 am
Excellent Dave, that's exactly what I wanted to hear.  Thanks!