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Owyee Picture Jasper / Types Of Picture Jaspers In The Owyhee Desert

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« on: July 17, 2011, 08:19:44 pm »

I paid a visit to Stringer's Rock Shop in Nampa, Idaho last weekend.  Picked up this nice chunk of Owyee Picture Jasper and a big chunk of Jade.  I will post a pic of the Jade later.  I thought it was on the disc but it wasn't.  My digital is the old Sony that uses the small cd's.  You have to initialize and finalize and its a pain so I will do it later.





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« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2011, 09:19:31 pm »

Maybe it's just me... , but not so sure it is Owyhee..

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« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2011, 09:38:41 am »

Maybe it's just me... , but not so sure it is Owyhee..


I guess I will have to cut it to find out for sure.  I held it up and Bill said it was Owyee so thats what I was going by. 

I am just not sure how to cut it???

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« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2011, 10:04:30 am »

I can't tell from the pictures for sure but if the lighter colored areas are sandy it will be really soft and won't polish. Looks like it probably is some type of Owyhee. If it is.... cut perpendicular to the dark crust. It would be nice to see in person though.
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« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2011, 12:08:26 pm »

I can't tell from the pictures for sure but if the lighter colored areas are sandy it will be really soft and won't polish. Looks like it probably is some type of Owyhee. If it is.... cut perpendicular to the dark crust. It would be nice to see in person though.

In other words, in the first pic, cut north and south?

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« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2011, 12:32:07 pm »

Bill knows his rocks, so if he said it is Owyhee I would bet on it.
Of course there are lots of different kinds of Owyhee.

I would take a little corner off and see what shows, if it is no good turn it 90 degrees and try again. It does look like you may have alot of the blue in the center, so if you want scenery pics you might only be able to get them by cutting close to the rind. These pieces can surprise you though, so try cutting a little off first and see.

Good luck with it............Tony
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« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2011, 03:04:36 pm »

The blue does not look right for the famous Owyhee. Does look like it is form the "area".

You want to cut across visible hills. Like in the top right side of the 1st pic.

Also trim each edge to block it up a bit and see if there are any other hills under the skin you cut off.

This piece looks like a lot of sky and just a little hill, but hard to know what is under skin.
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« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2011, 03:15:08 pm »

The blue does not look right for the famous Owyhee. Does look like it is form the "area".

You want to cut across visible hills. Like in the top right side of the 1st pic.

Also trim each edge to block it up a bit and see if there are any other hills under the skin you cut off.

This piece looks like a lot of sky and just a little hill, but hard to know what is under skin.

I agree.  I would like to see more blue.  Maybe inside.

Two years ago when I was in the Owyhee/Succor Creek area, we collected quite a variety of the local picture jaspers.  We visited Dale at the Rocky Butte and hounded some of the abandoned digs elsewhere.  Collected rainbow jasper right along the road. I brought home some like that one but haven't had it produce much I wanted to cab.  Doesn't mean that one will or not, but just my experience.
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« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2011, 03:48:27 pm »

There are 72 different identified types of picture jaspers in the Owyhee Desert. The one you have is Blue Mustang. Blue mustang was claimed and dug commercially by Gene Mueller. Bill Stringer is partly correct. It just depends how you say it:  It is picture jasper from the Owyhee's not Owyhee Picture Jasper.  
The term "Owyhee Picture Jasper" is often applied to all picture jaspers in the Owyhees. But this is incorrect. OK. now... The Original Owyhee Picture Jasper is the standard by which all picture jaspers in the Owyhee's are judged.  Original Owyhee Picture Jasper was the first picture jasper found out there and dug commercially for years and is still the King of all picture jaspers and remains the standard to this day.

There are three different main types of Original Owyhee Picture Jasper. Landscape, Pattern type and combination landscape and pattern.
See below:
#1 Landscape type. This one pictured has a sun set, blue sky, desert hills and white sand with red desert flowers in bloom.
#2 Pattern type. This one has red patterns with robin's egg blue, creamy yellow and white backgrounds.
#3 Combination type. This one has desert hills, blue sky or lake, red patterns and black geese and ducks flying in formation in the sun set/sunrise.
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« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2011, 05:42:26 pm »

Hey philip, how about posing a thread with examples of all 72 Owhyee picture jaspers? I'd enjoy that immensely...LOL
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« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2011, 05:47:55 pm »


Thank you Philip.  Very very interesting.  That is what is so cool about this site.  I went out and dug out another piece I had and I will post a pic of it here.  Its all polished up.

Thanks again.

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« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2011, 05:52:36 pm »

Hey philip, how about posing a thread with examples of all 72 Owhyee picture jaspers? I'd enjoy that immensely...LOL

If your willing to do this Phillip, maybe add them to this thread.. It will remain a pinned thread dedicated to Owhyee type Jaspers 

Any and all examples from members can be shared here ! dancer5
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« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2011, 06:32:03 pm »

Philip is the Rock God!!!!
I bet he has all different kinds too.
Thank you for the information. You have a lot of great experiences and knowledge to share but not enough time:)
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« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2011, 09:09:08 pm »

THIS is why I felt I needed to participate in this forum!!  Awesome info!   I felt I can recognize Owyhee, but I've been confused when I've seen pieces presented as "Owyhee" that I didn't feel were quite right.   We bought a batch at Quartzite a couple years ago and were told it was from the Owyhee AREA, but just not the nicer stuff.  It has some really neat lines in it here and there, but didn't look like what I thought was actually "Owyhee," so when we put up pieces to sell on eBay, we just list it as from the Owyhee area.  Now, that makes sense!   The photo below is one of those pieces.
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« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2011, 09:44:36 pm »


Nice pic, you done good Rhonda.

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