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abandoned garnet mine, GORE MOUNTAIN upstate ny

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« on: May 04, 2011, 12:47:47 am »


















pictures will never show how cool this place is, it felt like being on mars.  i thought i was going to hunt out some garnets but the entire mountain is just made out of it... it just got to a point of "what am i supposed to do now?" so. much. awesome.   

pretty much all of the garnet is all fractured like you see in the pictures, im not sure if its possible to find/remove / use gem quality stuff or not..  anyone have any experience actually working this material?  i was a little overwelmed and didnt know what to look out for other than the entire thing...
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« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2011, 12:49:08 am »

oh yeah, thats not me in the pics, i was holding the camera...
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« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2011, 06:25:28 am »

 welcome2 to the forum Ernie.

While I certainly have no experience with garnets, I love the place you have been to for the opportunity to do climbing exercises. The walls in the fourth picture would be ideal for relatively easy free-climbing.  eyes1  dancer
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« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2011, 06:58:00 am »

I don't have any experience with removing anything like like this..

Maybe someone esle can help, but sure looks like beautiful country !
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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2011, 07:07:10 am »

Interesting looking country:)
Love those big ole pockets of garnets. Do you think this is the place where they got all those countertops with garnets?
Maybe do a face polish on one side? Would hate to lose any of the garnets though...
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« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2011, 07:25:29 am »

We have smaller garnets like that around here and years ago I tried to remove some to cut. I beleive they are all fractured beyond use as I never found any large enough to facet. About 2 hours north of here you can find some rather good Pyrope Garnets that are facetable but small.

And Welcome to the forum Ernie........  yippie yippie

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« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2011, 01:13:07 pm »

Welcome and super cool pix!  yes
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« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2011, 04:43:58 pm »

Apparently I need to make myself a trip up to Gore Mountain...

Here's a thought - if the host rock is fairly fracture free and stable, try slabbing it and cabbing it up as is.  If once you slab it up you find it has some small fractures in the host rock you can always stabilize the material with Hxtal and then cab away and make some pretty darned unique cabs.  I'd be game for some.
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« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2011, 05:00:45 pm »

Welcome Ernie.  I know of Gore Mtn from skiing ads on tv.  I didn't know it was so cool and had Garnets.  I have heard of several places in upstate NY and VT having garnets and old garnet mines.  I believe these were mostly garnets used as abrasives, but i could be wrong.  I may have to haul the family over there for a rock hunting trip this summer.  It looks pretty rugged and dangerous, are there areas that are accessible to families with kids?  Also, is there a place to go and pay to dig or is it abandoned and free and at your own risk?  Welcome again Ernie.

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« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2011, 05:09:51 pm »

I recently took a garnet about 1" in diameter and polished it up a bit.  It looked better but was noting to write home about.  Garnets can make nice crystal type jewelry, but i am not sure you can cab them very well.  A lot of garnets are so dark and deep in color, that you have to have a really thin slice or they look almost black.

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« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2011, 05:48:14 pm »

If you were able to anything at all with it outside of keeping it as a specimen I'd be inclined to try what Enchantra mentioned and separate it from the major part of the matrix but leave enough matrix on the back to host the crystal formations.  Obviously you can't polish the crystals and it's likely that, if it is so crumbly, they will fall off from the vibration during cutting and griding/polishing the matrix on the back but you have enough there that you could experiment and see what happens without sacrificing your whole collection.

The crystals can be cleaned with oxalic acid (wood bleach).

The country there is quite remarkable, looks like an awesome place to spend some time!

By the way, welcome to the famn damily.
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« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2011, 09:06:27 pm »

Hi, Ernie. I am originally from Vermont. (I now live in Tucson,AZ). I have been to Gore Mountain four times to collect. I collected at the main mine that you can go visit. If you can come across some tiny facet grade material, it can be cut. There is very little facet grade. Most of it shattered.  The garnet seems to only be of specimen grade, of what I have seen. It also has a perfect cleavage, so it's very hard to cut without it separating. I have seen garnet crystal the size of my hand.  Did you know that the garnet was used at one time to make sandpaper abrasive. That was one of the main uses of it. It also looks like you are at one of the old, old quarries. I went to the fee collecting site on Gore mountain. The garnets are embedded in a very shiny black hornblende host rock. This is typical from the fee collecting area. In the bright sunlight the quarry glistens black & red. I am not sure if they are still open. You can also collect some of the garnets specimens along the railroad beds in the area. They used it as fill for the tracks. If you have a chance check out the Adirondack Museum. They have a lot of history about the garnet mines. Ajo.
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