Lost treasure found!

[asianfire]

Ok, one last post for the night (its 1:45) to get away from that special total number of posts under my name. 

Will see what else they are going to show on May 2, when the exhibition opens. Will spend some time this week to look into the rather distinct tail of the eagle as well as the clothing and hairstyle from the buckle too.

[S/T]

Yes, that would have been blasphemy, especially on Easter Sunday!!

Me, I'm  firing up the BBQ and enjoying the afternoon, G'nite!

[Bentiron]

Interesting stuff in his backyard for sure, all I got in mine is dirt and buried  building debris I found when I had to dig up my sewer line.

[asianfire]

OK, Exhibition is open to public since Monday. But so far it seems there are only 4 new pictures in circulation.

Oh yeah, one more thing,... its gold over silver. Apparently not one piece is solid gold.

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Looking at this now..... Back in that time period gypsies traveled through many areas and put on "theatrical-shows" among other things.  Looking at what of the script on the rings I could see, it appears to be Slavic in nature?   Some of it even could even be Greek.  

I dunno,.... It's beginning to look a little questionable to me....

[asianfire]

The paper says that the location is very close to an old trading-route; so I stay with what I said before, it could be loot of sorts.

The items are in contradiction: on one side you have a lot of different designs for rings, yet the brooches seem to be all of the same design. It does not really fit a jeweler nor a dealer. Gypsies, maybe but a ring with Clover leaf? I don't think so.

We will see what they come up with later, as for now no-one dares to make a guess.

[Taogem]

The rings appear to all be pretty small.. Almost children sizes. 

[skystone]

If the Austrian newspapers are right (just had a quick look), this stash was hidden by someone at the arrival of the Turks (they made it all the way to the doorsteps of Vienna). That would put this treasure to a time-frame of the arrival of Potatoes in Austria. The Turks introduced both Potato and Coffee to the common citizen. Vienna/Austria claim to fame even today? Music and coffee culture.

So thanks to the Turks for that and the preservation of this treasure!

The article says about 650 years ago or about 1360.  That would be aprox. 150 years prior to Columbus. Both potatoes & coffee are "New Word" plants. The thing I find interesting is the design of the broochs/pins. Other than the materials the general designs are nearly the same as early silver trade broochs. Traded to the Indians in the 1600 & 1700s. Silver trade broochs like that are found in many Eastern Indian sites. Late 1300s would be about the time of the last Crusades. The pieces could be of just about any country origin. Including the East. But certainly an uneasy time through out Europe. Much in fighting & small Kingdoms fighting with each other. I think (but not sure) this is also about the time of Vlad the Impailer (Dracula).
Mike

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The rings appear to all be pretty small.. Almost children sizes. 

Yes George,  If you ever tour a  castle that was built in those times, you would be amazed at the size of the armour people wore, and the heights of the doorways etc...
they were not much larger than most of today's adolescents. (5th and 6th graders)
  Someone of my size would be considered a giant,hehe

[asianfire]

The article says about 650 years ago or about 1360.  That would be aprox. 150 years prior to Columbus. Both potatoes & coffee are "New Word" plants. The thing I find interesting is the design of the broochs/pins. Other than the materials the general designs are nearly the same as early silver trade broochs. Traded to the Indians in the 1600 & 1700s. Silver trade broochs like that are found in many Eastern Indian sites. Late 1300s would be about the time of the last Crusades. The pieces could be of just about any country origin. Including the East. But certainly an uneasy time through out Europe. Much in fighting & small Kingdoms fighting with each other. I think (but not sure) this is also about the time of Vlad the Impailer (Dracula).
Mike

Mike, there is not really any contradiction in that statement. The first siege of Vienna by the Turks took place in the early 1500's, during which coffee was introduced (a "very old world" plant known to be harvested and used in Ethiopia since about the 800's) and the second wave brought the potato with them during the late 1600's siege of Vienna. You are right with the potato being introduced from the Americas (I think the Irish where the first in Europe followed by the French). Both where not in good terms (ever) with the Germanic Europe, so the potato came to Austria via the Turks during that siege. As far as stories go, the Austrians burned the leftovers in the fields after the Turks retreated and got a surprise when people died after eating the "fruit" as found above ground. Finally getting the smell of the potatoes from undergroundduring burning the fields and "discovering"  the edible potato .

Now both are dates after the given estimate for the objects found in the treasure. Yet no contradiction really has to exist as they could have been accumulated and hoarded over a long time before being buried at that place. The time of burial has never been mentioned in the papers. The timing for possible burial was my speculation, as I presume that something big had to happen, for someone to  try to save such a big quantity of items.

All of the above, naturally has to be understood is on the presumption that the whole thing does not turn out a hoax, initiated by the finder to raise the price for the house he is trying to sell. Hoaxes are quite common, as are very popular treasure hunts throughout the Germanic region. Right now, there are clues in circulation for a ring (apparently worth somewhere in the hundreds of thousands US$) hidden somewhere in the German speaking region of Germany, Austria and/or Switzerland.  All in the name of promotion!

[Bentiron]

With the way some of the objects are broken up it looks like it may be a "founders" hoard, that is a collection of objects that were collected together to reworked into other objects. This could easily be a hoard of jewelry that was meant to be melted down and new jewelry made from it. Such groupings of metal have been found in England and other European countries.
It is strange about the potato, tomato, eggplant, pepper, and deadly nightshade, they are all in the same family. When the potato, tomatoes and pepper were brought to the Old World from the New there were all kinds of problems. People would just not eat tomatoes, the fruit looked too much like the Deadly Nightshade or Belladonna plant. And yes the above ground fruit of the potato is dangerous, actually all above ground parts of the plant are, same with the tomato except for the fruit. Folk were afraid of the pepper plant to and the eggplant. The plants in this family contains alkaloids that are used in many ways and some are very dangerous to humans. Never eat the above ground fruit of potatoes or potatoes that  have turned green unless you peel deep enough to get rid of the green. In the past I have grown potatoes from the seed of the above ground fruit, what a surprise you will get! It is also possible to graft a tomato plant to a potato plant along with a petunia. Plants are such fun things.

[asianfire]

Bentiron: The Austrian paper actually mentions the possibility of what you call "founders hoard".