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« Reply #30 on: November 21, 2009, 02:12:29 pm »

Dan:
That's a keeper for sure. How much do you want for it? hahaha! just kidding. Great Jake's Place piece.
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« Reply #31 on: November 21, 2009, 04:15:59 pm »

Speaking of orbs.  This is an orbicular rhyolite I found in NM.  My favorite was the magenta colored one. But that was the only one I found.  I'm going back for more next summer.

 
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« Reply #32 on: November 30, 2009, 10:49:17 am »

Here are some cool orbs in some Rim/Bat Cave jasper I collected this summer.


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« Reply #33 on: November 30, 2009, 11:14:18 am »

Nice ones Dan..

Rim/Bat Cave..

I had to go look it up.. Oregon ! :)
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« Reply #34 on: November 30, 2009, 11:37:40 am »

Wow Dan, those are cool.  The stones of OR never cease to amaze me.

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« Reply #35 on: December 10, 2009, 03:55:01 pm »

"orbicular" is just a geologic term that has a similar meaning to spherical. As with most things that go unregulated by some kind of scientific body, the use with jaspers has been claimed to mean one thing by some and another to others.

Five jaspers were originally identified at the "five fine jaspers", they were bruneau, willow creek, imperial, morrisonite, and blue mountain. They were described with other terms too, they were all "porcelain jaspers"  (meaning they were very fine grained) and took a "porcelain-like polish.  They went on to say that to be a "fine jasper," a jasper needed to also produce the "egg-like" pattern common in each of these original five. These became (due to slang) known as orbicular jasper.  Unfortunately orbicular does not limit itself to "egg-like" structures, but means any spherical or globular like structure.

The various types of orbicular rhyolites are certainly not "orbicular jaspers" as they are rhyolite, a totally different species. So there is no danger here is miss-interpreting. BUT, there are many jaspers that contain spherical structures than can easily be labeled as "orbicular", Kambamby (not kambaba) is a jasper found near the original Ocean Jasper mines, and is a fairly pure jasper with spherical structures, as are many of the true poppy jaspers.
Kambamby Jasper


Kambaba Jasper

By the way Kambaba jasper is actually a fossil material (petrified stromatolite) as is Mary Elllen Jasper.

I leave Ocean Jasper kind of by itself, but much of it is not a true jasper but more strongly related to true agate. Another miss-named material is rain forest jasper, which is another rhyolite with agate filling in the open areas.

Lilypad Jasper (another actual rhyolite)


Now we have the interesting case of a jasper that is named porcelain jasper (of course it is also called SciFi, Exotica, SanteFe, etc. etc. depending on who you ask.), and does take a porcelain-like finish and may have orbicular patterns, but does not (as far as I have seen) have the "egg-like" patterns in the "five fine jaspers."
Porcelain Jasper


Another potential claim to being a "fine jasper" is carrasite, but then it may be a first cousin of morrisonite anyway. And I have seen the "egg-like" orbs in it. Apparently from the photos earlier in the post the bat/rim jasper would be another true candidate. 

So the use of the word orbicular is far more reaching and can be used with regard to jasper even if there are no "egg-like" shapes.

There are orbicular granites as well.  There is also something relatively new being called "fish-eye" (I have seen both agate and jasper used with the it) that could be termed orbicular.
Fisheyes Jasper/agate


I have a couple of examples of the same type of material shown by MS SCARLETT and I still have no idea what they are. But since her post I now have  a lead, and will look more closely at the bottom-back of my refrigerator!
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« Reply #36 on: December 10, 2009, 05:50:25 pm »

I threw those strawberries in my refrigerator away Ron:) LOLOL
These are some interesting slabs, I really love the LilyPad one.
I bought that Orbicular slab on Ebay and like most stuff you buy on there it was limited in description. Just orbicular jasper. Which means nothing I have come to learn from hanging out in this forum. A little knowledge is scary thing in my brain. LOL
Thank you Ron when you teach us things. I know your time is limited but oh so wonderful when you do have time to share.
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« Reply #37 on: December 10, 2009, 10:06:56 pm »

Ron,

Great way you broke down the proper descriptions of Orb Jaspers ( Five Fine ) and spherical structures.

I need to take more time when titling a thread. This could easily have been titled Minerals with Spherical Structures rather than just Orbicular Stones.

I was not familiar with the Kambamby, and also did not know the Kambaba was made of Petrified Stromatolite. As well, I did not know Rainforest Jasper is a Rhyolite.

I can see how Ocean Jasper would kind of be off by itself. It often appears to be more of an agate material than Jasper with silica/quartz content. Especially the material with the floating orbs.. Sure looks more like agate to me.

Good stuff Ron. Thank you !  :)
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« Reply #38 on: December 22, 2009, 05:40:26 pm »

The pictures and information is great, thanks!
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« Reply #39 on: December 23, 2009, 08:07:16 pm »

Here are some nice orbs in a piece of Bruneau I obtained recently.


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« Reply #40 on: December 23, 2009, 08:23:22 pm »

UNreal how beautiful they are. I really love the contrast in these colors.
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« Reply #41 on: December 24, 2009, 09:01:39 am »

Dan, that is a beautiful piece of Bruneau.  It seems like you never can find an example where all the orbs are complete, but you did it.  Great stone.

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« Reply #42 on: December 24, 2009, 11:04:44 am »

Beautiful orb examples for sure !

Great looking Bruneau !
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« Reply #43 on: December 24, 2009, 11:28:24 am »

Absolutely georgeous!
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« Reply #44 on: August 10, 2010, 10:46:59 pm »

Here's another oolite, a little bit different.  Location unknown.


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