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Amethyst Sage - It's variations, colors, patterns etc, how to cut, polish, etc.

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« on: May 26, 2014, 06:27:31 pm »

OK it was suggested we create a thread specifically for Amethyst Sage.
So here you go.  Stickied too because everyone loves some good Amethyst sage!

Post your amethyst sage pictures here and use this thread for discussing shaping, polishing, slabbing, cabbing, rough etc.
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« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2014, 06:47:25 pm »

Some Amethyst Sage photos
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« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2014, 07:56:10 pm »

Nice dendrites. Eric(Ajo)
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« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2014, 12:33:28 am »

Nice dendrites. Eric(Ajo)

I know.
I own it.   yes

Thanks for the photos to you both.  Isotelus commented on wanting a thread for Amethyst Sage.  I indulged him.   yes
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« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2014, 12:40:29 am »

Here is a large cab preform of Amethyst Sage. It has a very different pattern than the usual.
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« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2014, 05:48:52 am »

Here's one - light purple & measures 67mm x 24mm x 7mm



Some more big ones



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« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2014, 01:44:10 pm »

GORGEOUS Bob, Erick and Donnie!!!   eyes1

Here's the ones I have done:








And this is the next one in line for cutting.
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« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2014, 01:48:43 pm »

And Bob.....

That MONDO golden dendritic is absolutely AMAZING!!!!!! yes
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« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2014, 02:06:27 pm »

Krystee!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Holy crap Girlfriend those are gorgeous!   ura yippie

I think I just died and went to cab heaven....
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« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2014, 04:20:53 pm »

I'm ahollerin' with you Amanda............Krysteeeeeeeeeee those are GORGEOUS!!!!!!!!!!! omg eyes1
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« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2014, 09:33:42 pm »

Thanks for all the pictures folks ... a pretty amazing rock type!  ura
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« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2014, 08:11:34 am »

Krystee.....What can I say. AMAZING. yes
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« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2014, 09:38:38 am »

What does it say for me that of the photos posted here I own two of the cabs?   hide
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« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2014, 09:11:00 am »

I was mislead to believe I had some other type of agate for years. After doing some checking around I found out it was all Amy sage I had bought, and only cut this one cab from it. I hope to have a few cabs cut from the rough in the near future after seeing these hot cabs posted.



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« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2014, 10:49:18 am »





This is my absolute favorite of the ones you've posted.  It's outstanding!   ura
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« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2014, 07:07:10 am »

WOWSER...  TNTMOM has talent... I love the two tear drops, the last one best. Perfect choice in shape for the cabochon and what a great finish on them. So many people just see how many cabs they can get out of a slab. Designer pieces come from finding the perfect image in the slab and making it into a piece of art. Glad I found you folks. Yes, I liked all the other cabs as well. Now if I can just find out why some of my pictures will not post I will start sharing some of my work as well.
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« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2014, 08:04:36 am »

I was looking through this thread and thought that some of bobby1 photos were actually dendrite opal agates. This is my reference, or at least one of them...
http://thumbs4.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mN5Fwk6bdJ-MORsHIlbopHQ.jpg

I find that trying to understand the names of stones can be confusing at best. Can you all help me with this one? Thanks
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« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2014, 12:36:53 pm »

I was looking through this thread and thought that some of bobby1 photos were actually dendrite opal agates. This is my reference, or at least one of them...
http://thumbs4.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mN5Fwk6bdJ-MORsHIlbopHQ.jpg

I find that trying to understand the names of stones can be confusing at best. Can you all help me with this one? Thanks

As far as I know, Amethyst Sage is from the same location as the old Denio Dendritic agate. It just came out as Amethyst Sage when the purple variety made it to market.  Without the color showing, it is very similar to a number of other dendritic agates found at other locations.  I just think Amy Sage is more popular and looks better because of the color. I know I love the stuff enough so my wife has to set the budget for me....haha.

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« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2014, 11:48:08 pm »

I finished up the sister slab cab to one of the cabs above and the round I showed with the stencil.  Where is everyone elses Amethyst Sage?  This material is so different depending on each artists eye.  It is wonderful material to view and so different with each cab!


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« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2014, 04:11:35 am »

Divne and slick as usual ;)  yes
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« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2014, 12:41:23 pm »



I own this cab now!
Holy smokes it's more gorgeous in hand than in the pictures!     eyes1

Now I just need to plan a fitting design for it!
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« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2014, 05:19:02 pm »

Material from Tony.

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« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2014, 06:16:40 pm »

that sure is nice stuff
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« Reply #23 on: July 09, 2014, 09:08:40 pm »

Oh YUM slab! Score!

Enchantra I'm sure you'll do it justice  yes
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« Reply #24 on: July 09, 2014, 10:07:32 pm »

WOW Nancie!!!!  GORGEOUS SLAB!!!!!  Tony rocks!  All of my cabs came from his material too!  yes
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« Reply #25 on: December 10, 2014, 10:16:36 am »

Amazing cabs and slabs.

Still want to know exactly what the stuff is, though. Doesn't it have to show purple to be called "ame?"

Mn oxide dendrites in what, brecciated jasper, opal, agate, or amethyst?

Crystalline or cryptocrystalline, hardness, toughness, does it undercut, need special polishing techniques?

Locality, sources, price range...?

Thanks to everybody posting pics, it's appreciated!
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« Reply #26 on: December 10, 2014, 10:48:24 am »

It's kinda weird stuff and varies piece to piece one rough to another. It's variable nature put me off at first but grew too like it.

Some of the brown/tan nodules are more jasper like with dendrites, manganese is the colorant in the dendrites and amethyst color in the pieces that show violet.

It is cryptocrystalline quartz and seven in hardness. Pieces that have some of the white opal included in them can undercut. Other pieces are white or grey agate.
No special cutting techniques- as most agates diamond or silicon carbide will work.Tin or Cerium for polish- i like polish oxides on suede leather but opinions will vary. You can also run it all the way out with Diamond abrasive.

It is Nevada material.

Sources Tony on this site has some as well as Dale Huett of WestCoast Gems
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« Reply #27 on: December 10, 2014, 01:37:05 pm »

I want some rough! Wow, that material is spectacular.
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« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2014, 09:52:01 pm »


Wow! NIIIIIIIICE! The box I bought from Tony didn't have anything even close to that! You made out like a bandit!!!
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« Reply #29 on: February 22, 2015, 06:18:36 pm »

Adding one more.  This one might just be my favorite so far but..... I don't know.  I love every single piece of this material.  Here's a biggun though that worked up perfectly!  51.18 x 35.60 x oops still on the dop.  Can't give you the height yet but it is close to 8mm ;)

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« Reply #30 on: November 04, 2015, 07:25:39 pm »

Wow! just beautiful!
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« Reply #31 on: November 14, 2015, 01:39:06 pm »

Hi
im not familiar w/ amethyst sage
Can someone tell me where i can get some rough of this
material.Or a cab for that matter
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« Reply #32 on: November 14, 2015, 02:54:44 pm »

West Coast Mining has a claim there - http://www.wcmining.com/ though the web site seems to be undergoing reworking. I'm sure some people here might also have slabs or rough, too.
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« Reply #33 on: November 14, 2015, 03:17:12 pm »

thx for the info
the sight is under construction
im gonna send an email see what happens
thx again
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« Reply #34 on: November 14, 2015, 08:04:04 pm »

They also sell on Ebay.  Here's a link to their store:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/westcoastgems/m.html?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEFSXS%3AMESOI&_trksid=p2053788.m1543.l2654

They always have some up for auction.  I think there are 3 up right now.
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« Reply #35 on: November 27, 2015, 02:25:34 pm »

Cut my first piece of this today.  Came out pretty good, but what are you final polishing with?  Ceranium on hard felt seemed to make it worse than the 10k wheel.
The appearance of scratches is just the work light rings.  Gotta figure out taking better pics.



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« Reply #36 on: December 16, 2015, 08:03:37 pm »

Thx Robin & R2d for turning us on to west coast mining
I got some nice rough from them
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« Reply #37 on: December 17, 2015, 08:09:35 am »

Zurn - you're most welcome.  I have been buying rough from them for years and have never been disappointed.  As a matter of fact, I have some slabs I bought from them years ago that are in the "too pretty to cut drawer".  dancer5

Polishedball - I use CeOx on leather or I'll use diamond on a Tech-10.  I personally don't like felt because it generates too much heat for my liking.  I only will drag out felt when I'm having trouble polishing with all my usual suspects.  That's just me -- your mileage may vary.
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« Reply #38 on: March 11, 2016, 06:57:55 pm »

Was cutting some AS tonight and thought I'd add a slab - one f the more purple pieces I've cut.


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« Reply #39 on: March 12, 2016, 03:35:56 pm »

Woohoo! Quite nice!
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« Reply #40 on: March 12, 2016, 05:17:01 pm »

Ok, so one more since it's quite different. First the butterfly slabs then a closeup showing the intricicate detail of dendrites and scenery.


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